Dundas

 James

12th Chief of Dundas and Fingask



Son of: James Dundas
and: Christian Stewart
born on: Circa 1400
died on: 18/5/1452 in the battle of Brechin
Occupations :

X 1st.Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Alexander Livingston, of Callender,

the following children were born of this union:
Alexander Dundas   
  James Dundas
  Elizabeth Dundas, married Sir David Guthrie, Lord treasurer to James the 3rd.
  Margaret Dundas, married to Alexander Cockburn,of Langton. From The house of Cockburn of that ilk and the cadets thereof."Confirmation of the settlement made
upon her and himself conjointly of the barony of Carriden on his own resignation was dated 15th March 1472. Provision was made therein that it was to descend to his heirs by his first wife, Elizabeth de Crechton. It does not appear that Margaret
Dundas had any children".
  It is possible that James Dundas was married twice. From Dundas of Dundas: royal letters and family papers "The only wife of James Dundas of whom there is authentic notice was Euphemia Oliphant, to whom, as spouse of James de Dundas, the King, of his special favour, granted, in 1451, the sum of twenty merks out of the customs of Perth".
James succeeded to the estates of his father on the 6th November 1437.
James' wife was the daughter of Sir Alexander Livingston, governor of Scotland and subsequently during the troubled times which followed the murder of James 1 in 1437, and the succession of the boy king James 11, the name of James Dundas occurs along with Sir Alexander Livingston in the holding of the young King and the Queen mother in Stirling Castle.  The rough treatment experienced by the young King, was not forgotten when he assumed the reins of government in January, 1449. At his first parliament, Sir Alexander Livingston and James Dundas were forfeit of their estates and imprisoned in Dumbarton Castle.. The estate of Fingask, which was held by the Sovereign, remained in the Sovereign's hands,  but the estate of Dundas was given to the Earl of Douglas.   James' brother, Archibald Dundas,  attempted to resist by holding the tower at Dundas, which he retained until April 1449. 

From The Historie of Scotland; "In the year 1447, there was a parliament holden at Edinburgh, in which Sir Alexander Livingstone of Kalendar, James Dundas and Robert Dundas knights, at the pursuit of the Earl of Douglas, were forfeited and condemned to perpetual prison in Dumbarton".

In 1451, James Dundas was released from Dumbarton castle.  In the same year, Henry V1, King of England granted to James Dundas and Duncan Dundas his brother, a safe conduct to Scotland and a return to England to then proceed to the court of Rome via Calais and finally to return to Scotland via England.   In these troubled times there were many uprisings against the Crown and the Earl of Douglas who had taken the confiscated lands of Dundas, is the same Earl discovered two years later plotting against the Crown. Having incurred the King's suspicion he had taken himself to Rome and it is most likely that James and Duncan Dundas joined him in Rome to join in the plot against James 11. The planned insurrection broke out in the north of Scotland and James Dundas returned in time to join in the rebellion. The battle of Brechin was fought on the 18/5/1452 and James Dundas was slain by the Earl of Huntly.
The Earl of Douglas was slain by the King's own hand in 1451 at Stirling Castle.
 

James Dundas was pardoned after his death and on the 26/8/1452 the attainder against him and Duncan his brother was removed. The part of his estates remaining in the King's hand, namely Fingask was returned and a new charter was granted to James Dundas and his heirs male. The lands of Dundas being in the possession of the Earl of Douglas at the time of his decease fell to his brother James, Earl of Douglas and remained with him till they came to the crown by his forfeiture in 1452.

 
In 1465 a charter shows Archibald Dundas, (who was a favourite of King James 11 and 111) in possession of the lands of Dundas, and he assumed the designation of Dundas of that Ilk ever afterwards.   It is at this point in the family history that the two lands are never held by the same hand again.
 

Duncan Dundas was the ancestor of the Dundas families of Newliston and Philipstoun 

National Archives of Scotland GD150/163. Retour of inquest held at Perth before Robert Dunyne, depute of the sheriff of Perth, by Silvester Rettre of that ilk, Alexander Blare of Balthiok, David Hering, of Leithindy, John Muncreff of that ilk, Walter Stewart of Cardynny, James Dundas of Fingask, David Skrymgeoure of Fardille, David Chawmer of Straithy, William Blare of Ardblare, Richard Eviot of Ballowsy, John Ross of Ouchtyrgavin, Thomas Blare, John Ross, Laurence Creichtoune, Henry Petcarne of Petloure and James Muncreff, who found Robert Douglass heir of his father, deceased Sir Henry Douglass of Louchlevin, in the lands of Kelore, in the sheriffdom of Perth, which were in the king's hands, on account of the death of said Sir Henry, for four months or thereby. 27 May 1476


Dundas

James 

11th Chief of Dundas



Son of: John Dundas
and:
born on: o Circa 1360
died on: 1436

In 1416 James Dundas obtained a licence to build a Keep from the Duke of Albany. The Dundas family later declared their allegiance to the new King and were rewarded by being allowed to build an extension to the ‘Auld Keep’ in 1436 in return for their loyalty and the provision of troops in time of war.  In the earlier reigns of the Scottish Kings, care was taken that no-one should build a castle without the King’s own licence, an essential precaution to prevent rebellious barons from obtaining possession of a place of strength which might enable the owner to defy the King and the law. A ‘Keep’ was what its name implies, a place of defence and refuge. It was used as both a home in times of peace and a fortress in times of war and hostile raids from both North and South. At such moments those in the surrounding hamlets, who were loyal to the Laird of Dundas could take refuge in the Keep. A beacon would be lighted from the top of the Keep to warn others of the impending incursions.

The old keep was a massive 15th century structure of 4 storeys with a flat roof, with a later stair wing added to create an L-plan


  1. Christian Stewart   

  2. the following children were born of this union: 
    1. James Dundas  o Circa 1400 . Although 12th chief of Dundas, his son Alexander continued the line Dundas of Fingask.
    2. Robert Dundas
    3. Archibald Dundas  Continued the line Dundas of Dundas.
    4. Duncan Dundas . Lord Lyon King at Arms. Duncan Dundas was a man of much note in his day and was frequently employed in embassies to England. He acquired from his family the barony of Newliston and founded the branch of Dundas of Newliston. His father, James Dundas, also gave Duncan the lands of Craigton in the parish of Abercorn. Duncan married Elizabeth and had two children, William who succeeded him and Elizabeth who married John Maitland. Duncan and his son William were murdered by John and James Wardlaw. (Pitcairn's criminal trials)
    5. Elizabeth Dundas  married to Philip Mowbray
    6. Christian Dundas  married to Sir John Sandilands
In 1380, James Dundas obtained a new charter from King Robert 11 of the lands and barony of Fingask. He also obtained in 1397 a new charter from Baron Winchburgh of the lands of Dundas.  Another charter dated 28/2/1416 grants to James Dundas the lands of Easter-Blairmucks. In the following March, James obtained from Robert Duke of Albany who was then Governor of Scotland during King James 1 absence in England, a licence to rebuild and fortify Dundas Castle. For his greater security in these troubled times, James Dundas resigned his lands of Dundas and took a new charter in favour of his son (also called James Dundas), reserving to himself the liferent of same and to Christian Stewart, his wife, granting and ordaining her, peaceably at her pleasure to abide in the tower of Dundas after the decease of her husband. This charter is dated at Seaton, 30th November 1423. Upon King James 1 return from England, his Majesty granted James Dundas a confirmation of the licence to build the tower of Dundas, dated the 25th May 1424.

There is a licence by the Governor Albany to James Dundas of Dundas, " to build fortify and erect in height his tower at Dundas in form of a castle, and to fortify and surround it with walls and ditches as he pleased, and to have in it a constable, porter, and other keepers necessary, vested with the same power as any other constable, or others, have in any castle within Scotland." Dated 3 March 1416. Another similar licence by King James I. is dated in 1424, and empowers the said James Dundas to turn his tower or fortalice of Dundas into the form of a castle.

In the Scottish Record Office. there is a copy of a charter dated the 24th May 1429
by King James 1 to James Dundas of that ilk of barony of Fyngask, following on
resignation thereof to the crown, now to be held by him and heirs male of himself and Christian Stewart, his spouse, whom failing his nearest lawful heirs, under reddendo of 1d. silver yearly. 

James Dundas of Dundas, founded and endowed a house of the Carmelite order at South Queensferry, and there is a Confirmation by George Lord Seton, Baron of the Barony of Winchburgh, confirming a Charter by him dated 1 March 1444, giving to God and the blessed Virgin Mary and the brethren of the order of Mount Carmel and their successors, a piece of ground lying in the town of the ferry (now South Queensferry), with the yard and green adjacent to the Church of the Virgin Mary and whole houses erected there in form of a monastery


Dundas

Janet



Daughter of: Charles Dundas
and: Anne Whitley
born on:
died on: 1846
Occupations :

  1. James Whitley Deans Dundas
    the following children were born of this union: 
    1. Charles Deans Dundas   
    2. James Deans Dundas   
    3. Ann Deans Dundas  
    4. Janet Deans Dundas  
    5. Sophia Deans Dundas   
 

Dundas

Janet


Janet Dundas
Daughter of: Thomas Dundas
and: Lady Janet Maitland
born on: o 1758
died on: † 1837
Occupations :

  1. James Deans x 28/11/1783 in Larbert, Stirling 

  2. the following children were born of this union: 
    1. James Whitley Deans Dundas  

Dundas

Janet Maitland



Daughter of: Thomas Dundas
and: Lady Eleanor Elizabeth Home
born on: o Monday 23 July 1787 in Quebec
died on: † 1814
Occupations :

  1. Sir Thomas Gibson Carmichael  x Friday 7 February 1806 

  2. the following children were born of this union: 
    1. Alexander Carmichael   
    2. Margaret Carmichael   
    3. Eleanor Carmichael   

Dundas

Jean



Daughter of: Archibald Dundas
and: Jean Carnegie
born on:
died on:
Occupations :

  1. Alexander Ramsay   

  2. the following children were born of this union:
     

Dundas

John



Son of: Sir John Dundas
and: Margaret Dundas
born on: 11/4/1654 at Kirkcaldy, Scotland
died on: † 1724
Occupations :

  1. Magdalen Allardice  daughter of Thomas Allardice

  2. the following children were born of this union: 
  1. John Dundas, christened March 1676 at Craig by Montrose, Angus  
2. Anna Dundas, christened 24/1/1678 at Craig by Montrose, Angus
  3. Magdalen Dundas, christened 15/3/1679 at Craig by Montrose, Angus   
  4. Thomas Dundas, christened 30/8/1680 at Craig by Montrose, Angus  
  5. Margaret Dundas, christened 1/1/1683 at Craig by Montrose, Angus  
  6. Elizabeth Dundas, christened 19/4/1688 at Craig by Montrose, Angus  
  7. Helen Dundas  

John Dundas married 2ndly Mary Arnot on the 14th November 1694 in Montrose, Scotland.
 
John Dundas resided at Ballindarg until 1686, when he sold the property and purchased another small property, called Baldovie, in the parish of Maryton, near Montrose, Forfarshire


Dundas

John


Son of: James Dundas  
and:
born on: Circa 1330
died on:
Occupations :


Other children with their parental links:

Obtained a new charter from King David 11 for the lands of Fingask already held by the family
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Dundas

Joseph

 
Son of:
Thomas Dundas
and:
Lady Eleanor Elizabeth Home
Born on:
28th November 1822
Died on:
7th July 1872 in Switzerland
Occupation:

 
Margaret Isabella Moir 28/11/1850
the following children were born of this union:
  • Laurence Armine Dundas  o Wednesday 4 October 1854 
  • Thomas George Dundas  o Saturday 14 May 1853 
  • Mary Dundas  o Friday August 8 1856 
  • Eleanor Charlotte Dundas  o Saturday December 4 1858 
  • Arthur Bruce Dundas  o Saturday 31 March 1860 
  • Charles Dundas  o Wednesday 17 April 1861 
  • Archibald Cospatrick Dundas  o Thursday December 3 1863 
  • Isabella Dundas  o Saturday February 4 1865 
  • George Joseph Dundas  o Monday 26 November 1866 

  • Charlotte Anna Dundas o Tuesday 30 August 1870